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'''Size:''' 18 Inch<br> | '''Size:''' 18 Inch<br> | ||
'''Series:''' [[Paiste RUDE#RUDE|RUDE]]<br> | '''Series:''' [[Paiste RUDE#RUDE|RUDE]]<br> | ||
| − | '''Weight:''' 1352g (2023 Serial Number), 1364g, 1364g, 1368g, 1378g (2007 Serial Number), 1388g (3000 RUDE), 1422g (2002 RUDE)<br> | + | '''Weight:''' 1352g (2023 Serial Number), 1364g, 1364g, 1368g, 1378g (2023 Serial Number), 1378g (2007 Serial Number), 1388g (3000 RUDE), 1401g (2003 Serial Number), 1422g (2002 RUDE)<br> |
| + | '''Median Weight:''' 1378g (n=9)<br> | ||
'''Years of production:''' 1982 - 1985 as [[Paiste RUDE#RUDE|RUDE]], [[Paiste 1986 Expansion#3000 RUDE|1986]] - 1993 as 3000 RUDE, [[Paiste 1994 Expansion#RUDE|1994]] - 1999 as 2002 RUDE, [[Paiste 1999 Expansion#RUDE|1999]] - Present as [[Paiste RUDE#RUDE|RUDE]]<br> | '''Years of production:''' 1982 - 1985 as [[Paiste RUDE#RUDE|RUDE]], [[Paiste 1986 Expansion#3000 RUDE|1986]] - 1993 as 3000 RUDE, [[Paiste 1994 Expansion#RUDE|1994]] - 1999 as 2002 RUDE, [[Paiste 1999 Expansion#RUDE|1999]] - Present as [[Paiste RUDE#RUDE|RUDE]]<br> | ||
'''Sound file:''' [https://youtu.be/L7S4vRA1WD8 RUDE 18" China] <br> | '''Sound file:''' [https://youtu.be/L7S4vRA1WD8 RUDE 18" China] <br> | ||
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[https://youtu.be/giCvO-D9peM RUDE 18" China]<br> | [https://youtu.be/giCvO-D9peM RUDE 18" China]<br> | ||
[https://youtu.be/5wPyBuMhS1s 3000 RUDE 18 China]<br> | [https://youtu.be/5wPyBuMhS1s 3000 RUDE 18 China]<br> | ||
| + | [https://youtu.be/F3d7IiY7KY8?si=QzCZULNsvmSZtq2p RUDE 18" China]<br> | ||
'''Paiste's Description:''' [[Paiste China#RUDE|<<< - >>>]]<br> | '''Paiste's Description:''' [[Paiste China#RUDE|<<< - >>>]]<br> | ||
| + | '''Review:''' "Paiste's Rude range of instruments now have their 'China-types'too. These, however, are the more traditional sort with square-shouldered bell and upturned flange. Two popular sizes are being produced, 18" and 20", both in a medium weight. They're much less tasteful sounding than the Novo; much brasher. They have a really good explosive sound which would be perfect for punctuation. I preferred the crash sound with the cymbal the right way up, and the ride with it upside-down. If used like this there are four distinct sounds possible including inside the bell."<br> | ||
| + | Review written by Bob Henrit ("Assorted Paistes - Cymbalcheck", International Musician & Recording World, January 1985)<br> | ||
'''Review:''' One of the best Chinas I have used thus far in 15 years. Gives a perfect, raw, aggressive, china sound at all levels. Hard, crisp sustain. Not as loud as other Rudes, but gets the job done very nicely! This would make for a great china playing with any style of music, however, better suited for louder styles. <br> | '''Review:''' One of the best Chinas I have used thus far in 15 years. Gives a perfect, raw, aggressive, china sound at all levels. Hard, crisp sustain. Not as loud as other Rudes, but gets the job done very nicely! This would make for a great china playing with any style of music, however, better suited for louder styles. <br> | ||
Review written by ROMAN<br> | Review written by ROMAN<br> | ||
'''Review:''' The 18 RUDE is a very good stable dynamic china with a unique "earthy/raw" sound. It crashes,rides, pings, and explodes great and you can gong it sometimes also.<br> | '''Review:''' The 18 RUDE is a very good stable dynamic china with a unique "earthy/raw" sound. It crashes,rides, pings, and explodes great and you can gong it sometimes also.<br> | ||
Review written by SevenUmbrellas<br> | Review written by SevenUmbrellas<br> | ||
| + | '''Review:''' The sound is raw, and maybe it's just me, but I hear a bit of "kang" as well. Being a RUDE, I did expect it to be a bit louder, and with a longer sustain though. But, to be fair, I had a 22" Novo China on the stand just prior to this, so maybe it suffers by comparison. This is a nice sounding china, and I think that those people identifying this series as just for the heaviest of music would be pleasantly surprised. If you compare this to a [[Paiste 2002 18" China|2002 18' China]], you'll see that this is heavier, but not by much - actually the weights collected for that model's 1970s production is the same as this. This is basically a heavy 2002 18" China with no lathing, so perhaps Paiste just uses the overweight ones destined for that line to make these? Well, I don't work in Nottwil, so who's to say, but that hopefully will give you an idea of what this cymbal is. <br> | ||
| + | Review written by [[User:Bluejacketsfan|Bluejacketsfan]]<br> | ||
'''Artist/song where it can be heard:''' [[Paiste Alvino Bennett#Alvino Bennett|Alvino Bennett]], [[Paiste Rayford Griffin#Rayford Griffin|Rayford Griffin]], [[Paiste Hellhammer#Hellhammer|Hellhammer]], [[Paiste Ralph Johnson#Ralph Johnson|Ralph Johnson]], [[Paiste Joey Jordison#Joey Jordison|Joey Jordison]], [[Paiste David Silveria#David Silveria|David Silveria]], [[Paiste Chad Wackerman#Chad Wackerman|Chad Wackerman]] | '''Artist/song where it can be heard:''' [[Paiste Alvino Bennett#Alvino Bennett|Alvino Bennett]], [[Paiste Rayford Griffin#Rayford Griffin|Rayford Griffin]], [[Paiste Hellhammer#Hellhammer|Hellhammer]], [[Paiste Ralph Johnson#Ralph Johnson|Ralph Johnson]], [[Paiste Joey Jordison#Joey Jordison|Joey Jordison]], [[Paiste David Silveria#David Silveria|David Silveria]], [[Paiste Chad Wackerman#Chad Wackerman|Chad Wackerman]] | ||
Latest revision as of 20:26, 13 October 2024
Group: Chinas (& Swishes)
Type: China / China Type
Size: 18 Inch
Series: RUDE
Weight: 1352g (2023 Serial Number), 1364g, 1364g, 1368g, 1378g (2023 Serial Number), 1378g (2007 Serial Number), 1388g (3000 RUDE), 1401g (2003 Serial Number), 1422g (2002 RUDE)
Median Weight: 1378g (n=9)
Years of production: 1982 - 1985 as RUDE, 1986 - 1993 as 3000 RUDE, 1994 - 1999 as 2002 RUDE, 1999 - Present as RUDE
Sound file: RUDE 18" China
RUDE 18" China
RUDE 18" China
RUDE 18" China
RUDE 18" China
RUDE 18" China
3000 RUDE 18 China
RUDE 18" China
Paiste's Description: <<< - >>>
Review: "Paiste's Rude range of instruments now have their 'China-types'too. These, however, are the more traditional sort with square-shouldered bell and upturned flange. Two popular sizes are being produced, 18" and 20", both in a medium weight. They're much less tasteful sounding than the Novo; much brasher. They have a really good explosive sound which would be perfect for punctuation. I preferred the crash sound with the cymbal the right way up, and the ride with it upside-down. If used like this there are four distinct sounds possible including inside the bell."
Review written by Bob Henrit ("Assorted Paistes - Cymbalcheck", International Musician & Recording World, January 1985)
Review: One of the best Chinas I have used thus far in 15 years. Gives a perfect, raw, aggressive, china sound at all levels. Hard, crisp sustain. Not as loud as other Rudes, but gets the job done very nicely! This would make for a great china playing with any style of music, however, better suited for louder styles.
Review written by ROMAN
Review: The 18 RUDE is a very good stable dynamic china with a unique "earthy/raw" sound. It crashes,rides, pings, and explodes great and you can gong it sometimes also.
Review written by SevenUmbrellas
Review: The sound is raw, and maybe it's just me, but I hear a bit of "kang" as well. Being a RUDE, I did expect it to be a bit louder, and with a longer sustain though. But, to be fair, I had a 22" Novo China on the stand just prior to this, so maybe it suffers by comparison. This is a nice sounding china, and I think that those people identifying this series as just for the heaviest of music would be pleasantly surprised. If you compare this to a 2002 18' China, you'll see that this is heavier, but not by much - actually the weights collected for that model's 1970s production is the same as this. This is basically a heavy 2002 18" China with no lathing, so perhaps Paiste just uses the overweight ones destined for that line to make these? Well, I don't work in Nottwil, so who's to say, but that hopefully will give you an idea of what this cymbal is.
Review written by Bluejacketsfan
Artist/song where it can be heard: Alvino Bennett, Rayford Griffin, Hellhammer, Ralph Johnson, Joey Jordison, David Silveria, Chad Wackerman
