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'''Size:''' 24 Inch<br> | '''Size:''' 24 Inch<br> | ||
'''Series:''' [[Paiste Giant Beat#Giant Beat|Giant Beat]]<br> | '''Series:''' [[Paiste Giant Beat#Giant Beat|Giant Beat]]<br> | ||
| − | '''Weight:''' 2786g (Pre-Serial), 2850g, 2910g (White Label), 2912g (Re-Issue), 2913g, 2916g, 2921g, 2923g (2018 Serial Number), 2924g (Pre-Serial), 2925g, 2934g, 2939g (2005 Serial Number), 2941g, 2941g (2013 Serial Number), 2960g (2005 Serial Number), 2990g (1973 Serial Number), 3090g (1973 Serial Number)<br> | + | '''Weight:''' 2786g (Pre-Serial), 2850g, 2910g (White Label), 2912g (Re-Issue), 2913g, 2916g, 2921g, 2923g (2018 Serial Number), 2924g (Pre-Serial), 2925g, 2934g, 2939g (2005 Serial Number), 2941g, 2941g (2013 Serial Number), 2960g (2005 Serial Number), 2964g (2024 Serial Number), 2990g (1973 Serial Number), 3008g (White Label), 3090g (1973 Serial Number), 3120g (1974 Serial Number)<br> |
| − | '''Median Weight:''' | + | '''Median Weight:''' 2930g (n=20)<br> |
'''Years of production:''' [[Paiste 1967 Expansion|1967]] - [[Paiste 1974 Phase Out|1974]], [[Paiste 2005 Expansion#Giant Beat|2005]] - Present<br> | '''Years of production:''' [[Paiste 1967 Expansion|1967]] - [[Paiste 1974 Phase Out|1974]], [[Paiste 2005 Expansion#Giant Beat|2005]] - Present<br> | ||
'''Sound file:''' [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pflj3QD1gtE Giant Beat 24" Multi]<br> | '''Sound file:''' [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pflj3QD1gtE Giant Beat 24" Multi]<br> | ||
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCyCa85DvTU Giant Beat vintage 24" Multi]<br> | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCyCa85DvTU Giant Beat vintage 24" Multi]<br> | ||
[https://youtu.be/VHYR1L4fcZk?t=147 Full set of vintage Giant Beats]<br> | [https://youtu.be/VHYR1L4fcZk?t=147 Full set of vintage Giant Beats]<br> | ||
| + | [https://youtu.be/2EumiXYdmZE?si=N-ccY4RUwMurs0d8 Giant Beat 24" Multi (3120g)]<br> | ||
'''Paiste's Description:''' [[Paiste Multi#Giant Beat|<<< - >>>]]<br> | '''Paiste's Description:''' [[Paiste Multi#Giant Beat|<<< - >>>]]<br> | ||
'''Review:''' This cymbal is an amazing addition. It's not very versatile but the sound of it makes that OK. If your looking for a huge washy ride sound or a big thundering crash this is the cymbal for you. The bell is pretty big of course being on a 24 in cymbal. It's not terribly loud but it's pretty warm and pleasant.<br> | '''Review:''' This cymbal is an amazing addition. It's not very versatile but the sound of it makes that OK. If your looking for a huge washy ride sound or a big thundering crash this is the cymbal for you. The bell is pretty big of course being on a 24 in cymbal. It's not terribly loud but it's pretty warm and pleasant.<br> | ||
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'''Review:''' The biggest sounding ride in the history of rock cymbals. Seriously, the sound of this mother rivals the 30" Stagg ride in terms of depth, shimmer and overall monstrosity. Brilliant, yet not bright, in fact rather dark by body sound. Lots of shimmering wash, somewhat diminished wooden, round stick sound reminiscent of sounds from old rock albums in the turn of the 70's. Clear, clean bell sound that is big and low pitched, but not loud as novastellarderek said. Overall the cymbal is medium volume that stays nicely transparent in the background, but can be brought more out for swelling crash accents and huge noise walls. Also nice to play on mallets.<br> | '''Review:''' The biggest sounding ride in the history of rock cymbals. Seriously, the sound of this mother rivals the 30" Stagg ride in terms of depth, shimmer and overall monstrosity. Brilliant, yet not bright, in fact rather dark by body sound. Lots of shimmering wash, somewhat diminished wooden, round stick sound reminiscent of sounds from old rock albums in the turn of the 70's. Clear, clean bell sound that is big and low pitched, but not loud as novastellarderek said. Overall the cymbal is medium volume that stays nicely transparent in the background, but can be brought more out for swelling crash accents and huge noise walls. Also nice to play on mallets.<br> | ||
| − | + | :Review written by Akahito<br> | |
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'''Review:''' Okay, here's the deal. I freaking love this cymbal.<br> | '''Review:''' Okay, here's the deal. I freaking love this cymbal.<br> | ||
The "wet" wash with the feel under the stick is stunning. I really like that it is a "busy" sounding ride cymbal. When I compare it to my 2002 24" Ride, I find the Giant Beat to have less silvery "ping" and more "tah" under the stick. I use 2B sticks and I found it to respond really well to changes in touch. The crash is simply beautiful; it opens up with a simple flick of the wrist. Mallet rolls are other-worldly. I am very happy with this cymbal.<br> | The "wet" wash with the feel under the stick is stunning. I really like that it is a "busy" sounding ride cymbal. When I compare it to my 2002 24" Ride, I find the Giant Beat to have less silvery "ping" and more "tah" under the stick. I use 2B sticks and I found it to respond really well to changes in touch. The crash is simply beautiful; it opens up with a simple flick of the wrist. Mallet rolls are other-worldly. I am very happy with this cymbal.<br> | ||
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Now it's time to get my grubby hands on the 20" and 18".<br> | Now it's time to get my grubby hands on the 20" and 18".<br> | ||
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The Giant Beat 24" is sublime. Someone had mentioned previously (in another thread) that it might not be a "rock and roll" cymbal. I think that it makes a magnificent rock cymbal, unless you're looking for clangy-pingy definition. This would make a great jazz cymbal as well.<br> | The Giant Beat 24" is sublime. Someone had mentioned previously (in another thread) that it might not be a "rock and roll" cymbal. I think that it makes a magnificent rock cymbal, unless you're looking for clangy-pingy definition. This would make a great jazz cymbal as well.<br> | ||
I played the 24" Giant Beat at another show and then again at band rehearsal. It is the best freaking piece of bronze that I have ever heard.<br> | I played the 24" Giant Beat at another show and then again at band rehearsal. It is the best freaking piece of bronze that I have ever heard.<br> | ||
| − | + | :Review written by ivmike<br> | |
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'''Review:''' The 24" GB reissue is probably the best sounding RIDE Paiste is currently making. Very Bonham-ish (much more so then the red label 2002 sewer cap rides) | '''Review:''' The 24" GB reissue is probably the best sounding RIDE Paiste is currently making. Very Bonham-ish (much more so then the red label 2002 sewer cap rides) | ||
Ironically, my 24" neo GB and my original 24" GB are the same weight (give or take an ounce, I have a cheapo scale), but I wish my original (hell the reissue to) was several ounces heavier.<br> | Ironically, my 24" neo GB and my original 24" GB are the same weight (give or take an ounce, I have a cheapo scale), but I wish my original (hell the reissue to) was several ounces heavier.<br> | ||
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Like we both agreed on earlier, getting the bell shape and profile correct would probably result in accurate sounding GB reissue.<br> | Like we both agreed on earlier, getting the bell shape and profile correct would probably result in accurate sounding GB reissue.<br> | ||
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In their own right, I think the Neo GB's sound great, they just don't sound like the originals. More like a refined 2002.<br> | In their own right, I think the Neo GB's sound great, they just don't sound like the originals. More like a refined 2002.<br> | ||
| − | + | :Review written by Bonzomoon<br> | |
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'''Review:''' The 24" GB is fairly high in pitch (a surprise) but, ironically, it seems pretty quiet and the wash easily overtakes the stick sound. I say ironically b/c that's a lot of metal to be quiet like that. Don't get me wrong, I love wash. But I want to be able to hear most of my stick work.<br> | '''Review:''' The 24" GB is fairly high in pitch (a surprise) but, ironically, it seems pretty quiet and the wash easily overtakes the stick sound. I say ironically b/c that's a lot of metal to be quiet like that. Don't get me wrong, I love wash. But I want to be able to hear most of my stick work.<br> | ||
| − | + | :Review written by davidio<br> | |
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'''Review:''' Great ride! It has that ride sound your hear on the 60's records! The "ping" sound (it's not really pingy) has a raindrop-like character, and an amazing spread. Like ivmike said, it's a busy cymbal. The bell is quite large, and has a low-tone topped of with some high overtones, just like the ping. The crash is thunderous, and shimmering. A great ride!<br> | '''Review:''' Great ride! It has that ride sound your hear on the 60's records! The "ping" sound (it's not really pingy) has a raindrop-like character, and an amazing spread. Like ivmike said, it's a busy cymbal. The bell is quite large, and has a low-tone topped of with some high overtones, just like the ping. The crash is thunderous, and shimmering. A great ride!<br> | ||
| − | + | :Review written by Olli <br> | |
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'''Review:''' "Paiste’s Giant Beat series consists of a 24″, 18″, and 20″ “Multi-functional”, and 14″ and 15″ Hi-Hats. They have a very distinctive sound that one might call “Retro Rock”, as the ping is crisp. The 18″, 20″, and 24″ are labeled as “Multi-functional” because they can be used as rides or crashes. Here, we review the 24″ version, which is essentially a ride cymbal. Paiste calls it a medium thin, but at nearly 3,000 gm, I would call it medium to medium heavy.<br> | '''Review:''' "Paiste’s Giant Beat series consists of a 24″, 18″, and 20″ “Multi-functional”, and 14″ and 15″ Hi-Hats. They have a very distinctive sound that one might call “Retro Rock”, as the ping is crisp. The 18″, 20″, and 24″ are labeled as “Multi-functional” because they can be used as rides or crashes. Here, we review the 24″ version, which is essentially a ride cymbal. Paiste calls it a medium thin, but at nearly 3,000 gm, I would call it medium to medium heavy.<br> | ||
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The entire cymbal is finely lathed, but only the body of the cymbal is hammered, and the hammer marks are immediately adjacent to one another rather than spaced any significant distance apart. The sound of the ride has a strong ping with a very noticeable ring to the wash. It’s a very intense cymbal, and would serve nicely as a very powerful crash at a rock concert. The bell does not have as much ring to it as the body.<br> | The entire cymbal is finely lathed, but only the body of the cymbal is hammered, and the hammer marks are immediately adjacent to one another rather than spaced any significant distance apart. The sound of the ride has a strong ping with a very noticeable ring to the wash. It’s a very intense cymbal, and would serve nicely as a very powerful crash at a rock concert. The bell does not have as much ring to it as the body.<br> | ||
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Overall, this is a very bright cymbal with a bright wash to go with it. Very unusual. Even the color is distinctive, as if they gave it a thin nickel electroplating at the end of the production process. The coating gives the cymbal a slightly different color than typical B8 cymbals.<br> | Overall, this is a very bright cymbal with a bright wash to go with it. Very unusual. Even the color is distinctive, as if they gave it a thin nickel electroplating at the end of the production process. The coating gives the cymbal a slightly different color than typical B8 cymbals.<br> | ||
| − | + | :Review written by John E. Johnson, Jr. ("Paiste 24″ Giant Beat Multi-Functional (Ride) Cymbal", hometheaterhifi.com, November 21, 2011) | |
| − | Review written by John E. Johnson, Jr. ("Paiste 24″ Giant Beat Multi-Functional (Ride) Cymbal", hometheaterhifi.com, November 21, 2011) | ||
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'''Review:''' "We also liked the bright—but never harsh—stick attack that was apparent on both sets of hi-hats and on the 24" ride.<br> | '''Review:''' "We also liked the bright—but never harsh—stick attack that was apparent on both sets of hi-hats and on the 24" ride.<br> | ||
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The massive 24" ride takes a little practice to get under control, and if overplayed it can get to roaring pretty good. But it doesn’t <i>need</i> to be overplayed to project its distinctive bright attack/dark undertone sound. And it has a great bell, to boot."<br> | The massive 24" ride takes a little practice to get under control, and if overplayed it can get to roaring pretty good. But it doesn’t <i>need</i> to be overplayed to project its distinctive bright attack/dark undertone sound. And it has a great bell, to boot."<br> | ||
| − | + | :Review written by Rick Van Horn ("Product Close-Up - Paiste Giant Beat And Twenty Series Cymbals - What’s Old Is New...Times Two", Modern Drummer, August 2007, page 33)<br> | |
| − | Review written by Rick Van Horn ("Product Close-Up - Paiste Giant Beat And Twenty Series Cymbals - What’s Old Is New...Times Two", Modern Drummer, August 2007, page 33)<br> | ||
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'''Artist/song where it can be heard:''' [[Paiste Carmine Appice#Carmine Appice|Carmine Appice]], [[Paiste John Bonham#John Bonham|John Bonham]], [[Paiste Andrew Cyrille#Andrew Cyrille|Andrew Cyrille]], [[Paiste Brian Davison#Brian Davison|Brian Davison]], [[Paiste Jason McGerr#Jason McGerr|Jason McGerr]], [[Paiste Lou Molino#Lou Molino|Lou Molino]], [[Paiste Patrick Keeler|Patrick Keeler]], [[Paiste Nick Mason#Nick Mason|Nick Mason]], [[Paiste Mani Neumeier#Mani Neumeier|Mani Neumeier]], [[Paiste Bobby Rondinelli#Bobby Rondinelli|Bobby Rondinelli]], [[Paiste Enzo Todesco#Enzo Todesco|Enzo Todesco]], [[Paiste Alex Van Halen#Alex Van Halen|Alex Van Halen]] | '''Artist/song where it can be heard:''' [[Paiste Carmine Appice#Carmine Appice|Carmine Appice]], [[Paiste John Bonham#John Bonham|John Bonham]], [[Paiste Andrew Cyrille#Andrew Cyrille|Andrew Cyrille]], [[Paiste Brian Davison#Brian Davison|Brian Davison]], [[Paiste Jason McGerr#Jason McGerr|Jason McGerr]], [[Paiste Lou Molino#Lou Molino|Lou Molino]], [[Paiste Patrick Keeler|Patrick Keeler]], [[Paiste Nick Mason#Nick Mason|Nick Mason]], [[Paiste Mani Neumeier#Mani Neumeier|Mani Neumeier]], [[Paiste Bobby Rondinelli#Bobby Rondinelli|Bobby Rondinelli]], [[Paiste Enzo Todesco#Enzo Todesco|Enzo Todesco]], [[Paiste Alex Van Halen#Alex Van Halen|Alex Van Halen]] | ||
Latest revision as of 11:22, 3 March 2025
Group: Rides
Type: Multi
Size: 24 Inch
Series: Giant Beat
Weight: 2786g (Pre-Serial), 2850g, 2910g (White Label), 2912g (Re-Issue), 2913g, 2916g, 2921g, 2923g (2018 Serial Number), 2924g (Pre-Serial), 2925g, 2934g, 2939g (2005 Serial Number), 2941g, 2941g (2013 Serial Number), 2960g (2005 Serial Number), 2964g (2024 Serial Number), 2990g (1973 Serial Number), 3008g (White Label), 3090g (1973 Serial Number), 3120g (1974 Serial Number)
Median Weight: 2930g (n=20)
Years of production: 1967 - 1974, 2005 - Present
Sound file: Giant Beat 24" Multi
Giant Beat 24" Multi
Giant Beat 24" Multi
Giant Beat 24" Multi
Giant Beat 24" Multi
Giant Beat vintage 24" Multi
Giant Beat vintage 24" Multi
Full set of vintage Giant Beats
Giant Beat 24" Multi (3120g)
Paiste's Description: <<< - >>>
Review: This cymbal is an amazing addition. It's not very versatile but the sound of it makes that OK. If your looking for a huge washy ride sound or a big thundering crash this is the cymbal for you. The bell is pretty big of course being on a 24 in cymbal. It's not terribly loud but it's pretty warm and pleasant.
Review written by DEREKHUDSON
Review: The biggest sounding ride in the history of rock cymbals. Seriously, the sound of this mother rivals the 30" Stagg ride in terms of depth, shimmer and overall monstrosity. Brilliant, yet not bright, in fact rather dark by body sound. Lots of shimmering wash, somewhat diminished wooden, round stick sound reminiscent of sounds from old rock albums in the turn of the 70's. Clear, clean bell sound that is big and low pitched, but not loud as novastellarderek said. Overall the cymbal is medium volume that stays nicely transparent in the background, but can be brought more out for swelling crash accents and huge noise walls. Also nice to play on mallets.
- Review written by Akahito
Review: Okay, here's the deal. I freaking love this cymbal.
The "wet" wash with the feel under the stick is stunning. I really like that it is a "busy" sounding ride cymbal. When I compare it to my 2002 24" Ride, I find the Giant Beat to have less silvery "ping" and more "tah" under the stick. I use 2B sticks and I found it to respond really well to changes in touch. The crash is simply beautiful; it opens up with a simple flick of the wrist. Mallet rolls are other-worldly. I am very happy with this cymbal.
Now it's time to get my grubby hands on the 20" and 18".
The Giant Beat 24" is sublime. Someone had mentioned previously (in another thread) that it might not be a "rock and roll" cymbal. I think that it makes a magnificent rock cymbal, unless you're looking for clangy-pingy definition. This would make a great jazz cymbal as well.
I played the 24" Giant Beat at another show and then again at band rehearsal. It is the best freaking piece of bronze that I have ever heard.
- Review written by ivmike
Review: The 24" GB reissue is probably the best sounding RIDE Paiste is currently making. Very Bonham-ish (much more so then the red label 2002 sewer cap rides)
Ironically, my 24" neo GB and my original 24" GB are the same weight (give or take an ounce, I have a cheapo scale), but I wish my original (hell the reissue to) was several ounces heavier.
Like we both agreed on earlier, getting the bell shape and profile correct would probably result in accurate sounding GB reissue.
In their own right, I think the Neo GB's sound great, they just don't sound like the originals. More like a refined 2002.
- Review written by Bonzomoon
Review: The 24" GB is fairly high in pitch (a surprise) but, ironically, it seems pretty quiet and the wash easily overtakes the stick sound. I say ironically b/c that's a lot of metal to be quiet like that. Don't get me wrong, I love wash. But I want to be able to hear most of my stick work.
- Review written by davidio
Review: Great ride! It has that ride sound your hear on the 60's records! The "ping" sound (it's not really pingy) has a raindrop-like character, and an amazing spread. Like ivmike said, it's a busy cymbal. The bell is quite large, and has a low-tone topped of with some high overtones, just like the ping. The crash is thunderous, and shimmering. A great ride!
- Review written by Olli
Review: "Paiste’s Giant Beat series consists of a 24″, 18″, and 20″ “Multi-functional”, and 14″ and 15″ Hi-Hats. They have a very distinctive sound that one might call “Retro Rock”, as the ping is crisp. The 18″, 20″, and 24″ are labeled as “Multi-functional” because they can be used as rides or crashes. Here, we review the 24″ version, which is essentially a ride cymbal. Paiste calls it a medium thin, but at nearly 3,000 gm, I would call it medium to medium heavy.
The entire cymbal is finely lathed, but only the body of the cymbal is hammered, and the hammer marks are immediately adjacent to one another rather than spaced any significant distance apart. The sound of the ride has a strong ping with a very noticeable ring to the wash. It’s a very intense cymbal, and would serve nicely as a very powerful crash at a rock concert. The bell does not have as much ring to it as the body.
Overall, this is a very bright cymbal with a bright wash to go with it. Very unusual. Even the color is distinctive, as if they gave it a thin nickel electroplating at the end of the production process. The coating gives the cymbal a slightly different color than typical B8 cymbals.
- Review written by John E. Johnson, Jr. ("Paiste 24″ Giant Beat Multi-Functional (Ride) Cymbal", hometheaterhifi.com, November 21, 2011)
Review: "We also liked the bright—but never harsh—stick attack that was apparent on both sets of hi-hats and on the 24" ride.
The massive 24" ride takes a little practice to get under control, and if overplayed it can get to roaring pretty good. But it doesn’t need to be overplayed to project its distinctive bright attack/dark undertone sound. And it has a great bell, to boot."
- Review written by Rick Van Horn ("Product Close-Up - Paiste Giant Beat And Twenty Series Cymbals - What’s Old Is New...Times Two", Modern Drummer, August 2007, page 33)
Artist/song where it can be heard: Carmine Appice, John Bonham, Andrew Cyrille, Brian Davison, Jason McGerr, Lou Molino, Patrick Keeler, Nick Mason, Mani Neumeier, Bobby Rondinelli, Enzo Todesco, Alex Van Halen
