Difference between revisions of "Paiste Stanople"
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| − | The Stanople was a low-priced cymbal ideal for the beginner or student drummer that was eventually (or perhaps always) carried by Ludwig as a cheaper alternative to the Ludwig Standard. | + | The Stanople was a low-priced cymbal ideal for the beginner or student drummer that was eventually (or perhaps always) carried by Ludwig as a cheaper alternative to the Ludwig Standard (Stambul). |
| − | + | It is known from a Robert Paiste interview that the Stanople was a rebranded NS12 Dixie sold to Ludwig for North American distribution.<br> | |
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It would seem Paiste did not list cymbals falling into this category (Ludwig Standard, Zilket, etc.) in its own catalogs.<br> | It would seem Paiste did not list cymbals falling into this category (Ludwig Standard, Zilket, etc.) in its own catalogs.<br> | ||
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The timeline has the cymbal as being made of NS12 for the entirety of its existence, but it looks like the late period cymbals might have been made of B8 (see pics below) post 1970.<br> | The timeline has the cymbal as being made of NS12 for the entirety of its existence, but it looks like the late period cymbals might have been made of B8 (see pics below) post 1970.<br> | ||
The first appearance of the Stanople in print finally comes in the 1967 Ludwig catalog (which was actually printed in the Summer of 1966) where it is listed as a "new, economy line of quality cymbals."<br> | The first appearance of the Stanople in print finally comes in the 1967 Ludwig catalog (which was actually printed in the Summer of 1966) where it is listed as a "new, economy line of quality cymbals."<br> | ||
This is an interesting bit of wording, does this simply mean the line was new for Ludwig or is the Stanople not as old as Paiste makes it out to be? It would seem the best answer is the former, but that begs another question.<br> | This is an interesting bit of wording, does this simply mean the line was new for Ludwig or is the Stanople not as old as Paiste makes it out to be? It would seem the best answer is the former, but that begs another question.<br> | ||
| − | Actual production of the Stanople is said to have ended around 1970 when Ludwig dropped Paiste as a supplier without warning. The line was however, offered in the Ludwig catalogs until 1973.<br> | + | Actual production of the Stanople is said to have ended around 1970 when Ludwig dropped Paiste as a supplier without warning. The line was however, offered in the Ludwig catalogs until 1973, most likely leftover stock.<br> |
It doesn't appear that the Stanople ever had the Ludwig name as part of its emboss logo. It was seemingly always embossed as a Paiste with an accompanying made in Germany or Made in Switzerland.<br> | It doesn't appear that the Stanople ever had the Ludwig name as part of its emboss logo. It was seemingly always embossed as a Paiste with an accompanying made in Germany or Made in Switzerland.<br> | ||
Stanoples made after 1970 will have the red ink "type" stamp at 3:00 and a black ink Paiste logo stamp near the bell at 12:00.<br> | Stanoples made after 1970 will have the red ink "type" stamp at 3:00 and a black ink Paiste logo stamp near the bell at 12:00.<br> | ||
Revision as of 15:29, 21 March 2022
Stanople
Introduction: 1966
Discontinued:1973 (last listed in the '73 Ludwig catalog)
Background:
The Stanople was a low-priced cymbal ideal for the beginner or student drummer that was eventually (or perhaps always) carried by Ludwig as a cheaper alternative to the Ludwig Standard (Stambul).
It is known from a Robert Paiste interview that the Stanople was a rebranded NS12 Dixie sold to Ludwig for North American distribution.
It would seem Paiste did not list cymbals falling into this category (Ludwig Standard, Zilket, etc.) in its own catalogs.
The timeline has the cymbal as being made of NS12 for the entirety of its existence, but it looks like the late period cymbals might have been made of B8 (see pics below) post 1970.
The first appearance of the Stanople in print finally comes in the 1967 Ludwig catalog (which was actually printed in the Summer of 1966) where it is listed as a "new, economy line of quality cymbals."
This is an interesting bit of wording, does this simply mean the line was new for Ludwig or is the Stanople not as old as Paiste makes it out to be? It would seem the best answer is the former, but that begs another question.
Actual production of the Stanople is said to have ended around 1970 when Ludwig dropped Paiste as a supplier without warning. The line was however, offered in the Ludwig catalogs until 1973, most likely leftover stock.
It doesn't appear that the Stanople ever had the Ludwig name as part of its emboss logo. It was seemingly always embossed as a Paiste with an accompanying made in Germany or Made in Switzerland.
Stanoples made after 1970 will have the red ink "type" stamp at 3:00 and a black ink Paiste logo stamp near the bell at 12:00.
Research points towards 1971 being the year that Paiste switched up the alloys on the lower lines from NS12 to B8 (most likely to go along with the release of 2002 so they could buy B8 in bulk).
Alloy: Nickel Silver - CuSn8 (Also known as "2002 Bronze") possibly after 1970?
Quality: Budget, student, entry level
Production:
Applications: Ideal for the beginner or student and are particularly useful in the grade school band, or small combo
Sound:
Thin, Medium and Heavy
Marching
- Hi Hats: Hi-Hats were made by pairing up two Medium-Thin cymbals.
1967 Ludwig catalog listing.
1971 Ludwig catalog listing.
1973 Ludwig catalog listing.
Stanople NS12 14" marching, late 60's.
Med thin Hi-Hat, note red ink denoting weight
NS12 Hi-Hats
18" possibly made from B8, full ink labeling circa 1970's
B8 Stanople 14" marching, full ink labeling circa 1970's
- UFIP also made a line of cymbals called "Stanople" during the same time period, thier logo is completely different and has "made in Italy" stamped on the bottom of the cymbal (see picture to the right).
Information from: Ludwig '67/'71/'73 catalogs
Todd Little, Dan Garza
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