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Bluejacketsfan at 12:29, 10 November 2025
2025-11-10T12:29:23Z
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Bluejacketsfan at 00:09, 4 July 2025
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Bluejacketsfan at 11:28, 5 October 2024
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Sound file:''' [https://youtu.be/BRnO9mu3A20?si=e0-OtWqbfimWPRLb Byzance <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">18" China]<br></del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Sound file:''' [https://youtu.be/BRnO9mu3A20?si=e0-OtWqbfimWPRLb Byzance <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Traditional </ins>18" China]<br></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Meinl's Description:''' [[Meinl China#Byzance Traditional|<<< - >>>]]<br></div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Meinl's Description:''' [[Meinl China#Byzance Traditional|<<< - >>>]]<br></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Review:''' "Most China cymbals I’ve played can be classified either as “trashy” or “gongy.” Whether used as crashes or as rides, the Byzance Chinas are definitely in the gongy category. The sound of the 16" model is particularly metallic. The 18" and 20" models have more overtones, but they’re still very dry, and their pitches are really low." <br></div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Review:''' "Most China cymbals I’ve played can be classified either as “trashy” or “gongy.” Whether used as crashes or as rides, the Byzance Chinas are definitely in the gongy category. The sound of the 16" model is particularly metallic. The 18" and 20" models have more overtones, but they’re still very dry, and their pitches are really low." <br></div></td></tr>
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'''Group:''' [[Meinl Cymbal Type#Chinas (and Swishes)|Chinas (& Swishes)]]<br><br />
'''Type:''' [[Meinl China|China]]<br><br />
'''Size:''' 18 Inch<br><br />
'''Series:''' [[Meinl Byzance Traditional|Byzance Traditional]]<br><br />
'''Weight:''' 1184g, 1204g (2023 Serial Number)<br><br />
'''Years of production:''' 2001 - Present<br><br />
'''Sound file:''' [https://youtu.be/BRnO9mu3A20?si=e0-OtWqbfimWPRLb Byzance 18" China]<br><br />
[https://youtu.be/PyG_HAWVEP4?si=eQtNPvgAQCPZOVSF Byzance 18" China]<br><br />
'''Meinl's Description:''' [[Meinl China#Byzance Traditional|<<< - >>>]]<br><br />
'''Review:''' "Most China cymbals I’ve played can be classified either as “trashy” or “gongy.” Whether used as crashes or as rides, the Byzance Chinas are definitely in the gongy category. The sound of the 16" model is particularly metallic. The 18" and 20" models have more overtones, but they’re still very dry, and their pitches are really low." <br><br />
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Review written by Rick Mattingly ("Product Close-Up - Meinl Byzance Cymbals - East Meets West To Create A New Sound", Modern Drummer, April 2002, p.39) <br><br />
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'''Artist/song where it can be heard:''' unknown <br></div>
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