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Bluejacketsfan at 12:29, 10 November 2025
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Bluejacketsfan
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Group:''' [[Meinl Cymbal Type#Chinas (and Swishes)|Chinas (& Swishes)]]<br></div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Group:''' [[Meinl Cymbal Type#Chinas (and Swishes)|Chinas (& Swishes)]]<br></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Weight:''' 1487g, 1513g, 1517g, 1665g<br></div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Weight:''' 1487g, 1513g, 1517g, 1665g<br></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Sound file:''' [https://youtu.be/hFU8wtkXM9A?si=6mpvPMeqMfRVmllK Byzance Traditional 20" China]<br></div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Sound file:''' [https://youtu.be/hFU8wtkXM9A?si=6mpvPMeqMfRVmllK Byzance Traditional 20" China]<br></div></td></tr>
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Bluejacketsfan
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Bluejacketsfan at 11:42, 5 October 2024
2024-10-05T11:42:49Z
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Review:''' "Most China cymbals I’ve played can be classified either as “trashy” or “gongy.” Whether used as crashes or as rides, the Byzance Chinas are definitely in the gongy category. The sound of the 16" model is particularly metallic. The 18" and 20" models have more overtones, but they’re still very dry, and their pitches are really low." <br></div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Review:''' "Most China cymbals I’ve played can be classified either as “trashy” or “gongy.” Whether used as crashes or as rides, the Byzance Chinas are definitely in the gongy category. The sound of the 16" model is particularly metallic. The 18" and 20" models have more overtones, but they’re still very dry, and their pitches are really low." <br></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Review written by Rick Mattingly ("Product Close-Up - Meinl Byzance Cymbals - East Meets West To Create A New Sound", Modern Drummer, April 2002, p.39) <br></div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Review written by Rick Mattingly ("Product Close-Up - Meinl Byzance Cymbals - East Meets West To Create A New Sound", Modern Drummer, April 2002, p.39) <br></div></td></tr>
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Bluejacketsfan
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'''Group:''' [[Meinl Cymbal Type#Chinas (and Swishes)|Chinas (& Swishes)]]<br><br />
'''Type:''' [[Meinl China|China]]<br><br />
'''Size:''' 20 Inch<br><br />
'''Series:''' [[Meinl Byzance Traditional|Byzance Traditional]]<br><br />
'''Weight:''' 1487g, 1513g, 1517g, 1665g<br><br />
'''Years of production:''' ?<br><br />
'''Sound file:''' [https://youtu.be/hFU8wtkXM9A?si=6mpvPMeqMfRVmllK Byzance Traditional 20" China]<br><br />
[https://youtu.be/LizY_2hIevY?si=Gieinaz5JmKn8VxS Byzance Traditional 20" China]<br><br />
[https://youtu.be/4_vrVu1zNSk?si=9urz2vBGR-ycdLV4 Byzance Traditional 20" China]<br><br />
[https://youtu.be/DhxHpoHNwGw?si=_HW1_XRT66-89wQC Byzance Traditional 20" China]<br><br />
[https://youtu.be/R8-eMHIhbc8?si=0KRL6YC5eLhlWhvC Byzance Traditional 20" China]<br><br />
'''Meinl's Description:''' [[Meinl China#Byzance Traditional|<<< - >>>]]<br><br />
'''Review:''' "Most China cymbals I’ve played can be classified either as “trashy” or “gongy.” Whether used as crashes or as rides, the Byzance Chinas are definitely in the gongy category. The sound of the 16" model is particularly metallic. The 18" and 20" models have more overtones, but they’re still very dry, and their pitches are really low." <br><br />
Review written by Rick Mattingly ("Product Close-Up - Meinl Byzance Cymbals - East Meets West To Create A New Sound", Modern Drummer, April 2002, p.39) <br><br />
'''Artist/song where it can be heard:''' unknown <br></div>
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