Difference between revisions of "Paiste Super"
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'''Introduction:''' 1955-1960?<br> | '''Introduction:''' 1955-1960?<br> | ||
'''Discontinued:''' 1978<br> | '''Discontinued:''' 1978<br> | ||
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'''Background:''' The Paiste SUPER (not to be confused with the precursor to the Formula 602, the B20 "Super Formula 602") was a long-running, low-priced cymbal that slotted in below the Dixie in the Paiste lineup for most, if not all, of its history. | '''Background:''' The Paiste SUPER (not to be confused with the precursor to the Formula 602, the B20 "Super Formula 602") was a long-running, low-priced cymbal that slotted in below the Dixie in the Paiste lineup for most, if not all, of its history. | ||
The SUPER was first made in Germany sometime between 1960 and 1964, most likely 1963 after the Paiste Standard line was discontinued. Then, the Swiss factory also made NS12 Supers for a short period of time (1967-1971?) before both factories made the B8 version starting sometime in 1971. | The SUPER was first made in Germany sometime between 1960 and 1964, most likely 1963 after the Paiste Standard line was discontinued. Then, the Swiss factory also made NS12 Supers for a short period of time (1967-1971?) before both factories made the B8 version starting sometime in 1971. | ||
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'''Innovation:''' <br> | '''Innovation:''' <br> | ||
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| + | '''Alloy:''' [[Identify_Your_Paistes#Nickel Silver|Nickel Silver]]<br> | ||
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'''Quality:''' <br> | '''Quality:''' <br> | ||
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'''Production:'''According to the 2009 Paiste timeline on NF Drums, the Super started off life in Germany in 1955 as a Nickel-Silver (NS12) cymbal. | '''Production:'''According to the 2009 Paiste timeline on NF Drums, the Super started off life in Germany in 1955 as a Nickel-Silver (NS12) cymbal. | ||
That timeline has production first beginning in Germany in 1955 and in the Nottwil factory in 1963 (supposedly now of the new B8 alloy, at least for some cymbals) although the Paiste catalogs we have in our possession do not support this, as the Super is not listed in the 1966 Swiss catalog and doesn't appear actually on any Swiss printed materials until 1970. So, this theory appears to be false.<br> | That timeline has production first beginning in Germany in 1955 and in the Nottwil factory in 1963 (supposedly now of the new B8 alloy, at least for some cymbals) although the Paiste catalogs we have in our possession do not support this, as the Super is not listed in the 1966 Swiss catalog and doesn't appear actually on any Swiss printed materials until 1970. So, this theory appears to be false.<br> | ||
'''Applications:''' The budget Super was a "universal" cymbal suitable for crashing and riding.<br> | '''Applications:''' The budget Super was a "universal" cymbal suitable for crashing and riding.<br> | ||
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'''Users:''' <br> | '''Users:''' <br> | ||
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'''Sound:'''<br> | '''Sound:'''<br> | ||
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* '''[[Hi-Hat]] - [[14"]]<br> | * '''[[Hi-Hat]] - [[14"]]<br> | ||
| − | + | "The sizes above appear on the July, 1970 Paiste price sheet. It is entirely possible, most likely probably, that the Super lineup was different in the earlier days of NS12 production. NS12 cymbals stamped as Mediums have been reported, but there isn't any picture documentation. The sizes above were also reflective of the earlier stages of B8 production. By 1976, the Super line had been reduced to 14", 18" and 20" cymbals. | |
| − | Additional 60s era catalogs will need to be found to shed more light on the early history of this line. | + | Additional 60s era catalogs will need to be found to shed more light on the early history of this line." |
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Information from: Todd Little | Information from: Todd Little | ||
Return to the '''[[Paiste Series|Paiste Series Portal]]<br> | Return to the '''[[Paiste Series|Paiste Series Portal]]<br> | ||
Return to the '''[[Paiste Cymbal Type|Paiste Cymbal Type Portal]] | Return to the '''[[Paiste Cymbal Type|Paiste Cymbal Type Portal]] | ||
Revision as of 14:32, 9 August 2021
Contents
Introduction: 1955-1960?
Discontinued: 1978
Background: The Paiste SUPER (not to be confused with the precursor to the Formula 602, the B20 "Super Formula 602") was a long-running, low-priced cymbal that slotted in below the Dixie in the Paiste lineup for most, if not all, of its history.
The SUPER was first made in Germany sometime between 1960 and 1964, most likely 1963 after the Paiste Standard line was discontinued. Then, the Swiss factory also made NS12 Supers for a short period of time (1967-1971?) before both factories made the B8 version starting sometime in 1971.
Production of the B8 Super ceased by 1974 in the Swiss factory - the cymbal was still available from the German factory (in very limited sizes - 14", 18" and 20") until 1978 when it was replaced by the 101.
The Supers made in Switzerland in 1972 and 1973 were given serial numbers (at least some of the time).
Innovation:
Alloy: Nickel Silver
Quality:
Production:According to the 2009 Paiste timeline on NF Drums, the Super started off life in Germany in 1955 as a Nickel-Silver (NS12) cymbal.
That timeline has production first beginning in Germany in 1955 and in the Nottwil factory in 1963 (supposedly now of the new B8 alloy, at least for some cymbals) although the Paiste catalogs we have in our possession do not support this, as the Super is not listed in the 1966 Swiss catalog and doesn't appear actually on any Swiss printed materials until 1970. So, this theory appears to be false.
Applications: The budget Super was a "universal" cymbal suitable for crashing and riding.
Users:
Sound:
Medium
Hi-Hats
"The sizes above appear on the July, 1970 Paiste price sheet. It is entirely possible, most likely probably, that the Super lineup was different in the earlier days of NS12 production. NS12 cymbals stamped as Mediums have been reported, but there isn't any picture documentation. The sizes above were also reflective of the earlier stages of B8 production. By 1976, the Super line had been reduced to 14", 18" and 20" cymbals. Additional 60s era catalogs will need to be found to shed more light on the early history of this line."
Information from: Todd Little
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