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Material rolling
Rolling animation
Cross rolling

B20 production (Formula 602, Modern essentials 602’s)

The processes described below apply to Paiste's current "top line" cymbals and some of their "midline" cymbals.
As you go back in time Paiste used almost the same amount of labor and hand work on thier lower line cymbals, that is not the case today.

Paiste does not have a foundry, they have traditionally used outside suppliers to provide their alloys with the first few production stages completed.
For the B20 alloy they are delivered to Paiste as circular “blanks”.

  • The B20 “blanks” were originally supplied by Swissmetal from about 1957 to 1994, they were originally called "Metallwerke Dornach AG".
  • The Formula 602 and Sound creation lines were discontinued in 1994 because Swissmetal stopped making B20 blanks, it is understood that Swissmetal went through substantial financial difficulties during this time, it’s assumed it wasn’t cost effective for them at that point as Paiste would have been a small customer.
  • "Wieland works" in Vöhringen Germany now supply the B20 blanks for the “classic 602’s” and "modern essentials 602’s".

There are advantages to using industrial foundries and mills: Production is on a much larger scale, they can produce several hundred blanks from one batch of alloy, the foundry also has the ability to do metallurgical analysis to ensure the alloy has the correct mix of components.

The production process at the foundry and mill: A cymbal “blank” of B20 bronze is produced by hot rolling [1] and “cross rolling” [2] it multiple times from a small, thick ingot into a large semi circular blank.
(The “hot rolling process” [1] forms the crystalline structure within the cymbal that contributes to the more refined sound of Bell Bronze). B20 is a "two-phase" alloy: meaning some of the tin is not dissolved in the copper grains but exists between them, in its natural state it is very brittle, there is a large amount of work done to the material to get it conditioned so it can be hammered and lathed without cracking.
After being rolled out to approximate size and thickness, the flat blanks are delivered to Paiste. They are then reheated, a bell is stamped and quenched in water for “annealing” [3].
In terms of shape at this stage, they are a raw, unworked cymbal blank, the cymbal looks like a giant bronze potato chip covered in oven crust.
After this process, the cymbal is cleaned of the scale, a hole is punched in the bell and the hammering process begins.

Hammering: Paiste has used the same production processes from at least the late 50's to the present on all thier top of the line cymbals.
An electro pneumatic hammer is operated manually by the cymbal-smith, he wears a mount with a spindle on his left knee that holds the cymbal, he uses his thigh to move the cymbal in and out from the hammer to position the blows, with his right foot he controls the power/depth of the hammer blows, with his hands he rotates the cymbal to evenly distribute the hammer marks.
Paiste has been using this technique and the same type of machines since at least the late 50’s.
The next step is fine tuning: a different cymbal-smith now hammers the cymbal by had to fine tune the shape and checks the bow with a ruler and on a steel flat table to make sure the edges are straight, he also checks the cymbal against a “master” for hammer pattern and shape of the bow.

  • Paiste is the only company out of the “big three” (Paiste, Zildjian and Sabian) that uses hammering to shape the curve or “bow” of the cymbal: Zildjian and Sabian use a 75 ton press to and STAMP some of their cymbals into shape!

Specification card: Each cymbal-smith has a “specification card” that travels with each model/size of cymbal, it tells him the exact weight, thickness and hammering pattern for that cymbal.

Lathing: Lathing does two things: brings the cymbal down to the desired thickness and creates the lathing grooves which refines the sound and defines the character of that cymbal line.
The cymbal-smith checks the thickness of the cymbal with a micrometer during this process, the thickness must be no more or less than 0.01mm.

Finishing: The edges are cleaned up and chamfered, a serial number is laser etched into the bottom. The cymbals then have their respective logo, model, size printed on them and a protective coating is applied (Paiste was the 1st. to do this with the 602 series in the 1960’s).

Quality control: Each cymbal is tested against a finished “Klangmuster” (master cymbal) for consistency, if it does not pass the cymbal is rejected and melted down.

Twenty and Twenty Masters Collection production

The original “Twenty” blanks were supplied from the Foundry of Murat Diril in Turkey along with pre-work done to the cymbals before they were shipped off to Switzerland for completion.
There were well publicized issues with the quality of the blanks and high rejection rate, so Turkish suppliers (**) were changed before the current Twenty Custom/Twenty Masters series started.
The process with their new supplier according to Paiste's Tim Shahady: "They begin by being hammered and shaped in Turkey, then we send them to Switzerland where we do the finish hammering and lathing and all the other work that makes it a Paiste cymbal."
All the hammering is done by hand according to Erik Paiste: “Paiste emphasizes that every crucial stage of the production is completed by hand, from the initial casting to the lathing and hammering.”

Original Paiste Twenty: Produced by Murat Diril
Paiste Twenty Custom/Twenty Masters: Produced by Istanbul Mehmet**
Paiste Masters: Produced by Bosphorus**
(**)Possible, but unconfirmed by Paiste Turkish suppliers.

B15 (Paiste Signature Sound Alloy)

Paiste demo.jpg

Paiste's B15 (Signature Sound Alloy) blanks are supplied by the "Wieland works" in Vöhringen Germany.
B15 like B20, goes through some of the same processes: initially hot rolled to about 60mm thickness then the last stage is cold rolled. Also, it is not tempered [4] like traditional B20 cymbals but is annealed [3].
Using this alloy allows for greater consistency between blanks compared to traditional B20 cymbal alloy, and is more inline with Paiste's B8 production methods.
Once they arrive at Paiste, they would have to heat the whole of the cymbal again to anneal it [3] and then press the in the bell.
After this process, the blank is allowed to cool for 24 hours. As a result of annealing, the material is now more pliable, tougher and ready for hammering.

Hammering: Same processes as B20.
Lathing: Same processes as B20 except Paiste developed a different shaped knife for a unique "flat groove" lathing pattern for the Signature series.
Finishing: Same processes as B20.
Quality control: Same processes as B20.

Early 90's factory tour with Nicko McBrain B15 Signature cymbal production tour

U.S. patent for "Signature alloy"
Paiste's description of the production process in the U.S. patent
"The material or special alloy for the inventive cymbal 1 can be processed, by way of example and not limitation, as hereinafter disclosed:
An alloy containing, for example, 14.7 percent by weight tin, 0.08 percent by weight phosphorus and 85.22 percent by weight copper is initially melted in an induction melting furnace. The melt is delivered at a temperature of 1000° C. to 1200° C. into a heat retention or holding furnace of a strip or band casting installation. A strip or band is cast.
The cast strip or band has, for example, a width of 670 mm and a thickness of 18 mm. This strip or band cannot be coiled and is therefore cut into plates of approximately 3 to 4 meters length.
Such plates are now homogenized at 600° C. to 700° C. during about 10 to 25 hours.
Then the casting and oxidation skin is removed by means of a milling tool or cutter or equivalent structure. Thereafter the plates are initially only slightly cold rolled, i.e. by about 20 percent and then recrystallized at temperatures between 500° C. and 700° C.
This process cycle of cold rolling and recrystallization takes place until a final sheet or plate thickness of 1 to 2 mm is obtained. Then a final annealing is carried out at temperatures between 400° C. and 500° C.
The obtained grain size then should be between 0.003 and 0.015 mm. The hardness should lie between 150 250 kilopounds per square millimeter, depending on the strived for sound or tone character.
Now circular blanks or discs of, for example, 200 to 610 mm in diameter are cut out of this sheet or plate from which there is formed the aforedescribed cymbal 1.
The cymbal 1 shown by way of example in FIG. 1 and described with reference thereto can be fabricated as follows:
The dome or cup 11 is formed at the corresponding blank or disc heretofore described by pressing, die stamping, drawing or in any other suitable manner. The hole or aperture 111 is drilled into the zenith or apex of the dome or cup 11.
Further forming or shaping is carried out by hammering the cold material. The thus formed or shaped cymbal is superficially faced or surface finished, preferably by hand, and then provided with a suitable conservation or preservation layer or film.
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B8 (2002 Alloy)

Early 20th cent. picture: Metallwerke Dornach/Swissmetal-cold rolling material into long thin sheets

B8 alloy is very different compared to B20: it's softer, much more malleable, easier to work and doesn't require multiple heating and rolling processes to prepare it for hammering.
Paiste's B8 alloy blanks originally came from Metallwerke Dornach AG (later named Swissmetal), the same source as their B20, they are now supplied by the "Wieland works".
They cast ingot bars, they are then cooled and "cold rolled" [1] multiple times into long thin sheets.
(Cold rolling operation actually increases the strength via "strain hardening" up to 20%, it also improves the surface finish and holds tighter tolerances).
The mill then cuts circular blanks out of the sheets and delivers them to Paiste. Once they arrive at Paiste, they would heat the center of the cymbal in order to press the in the bell.
For the china type cymbals they "form or spin" the shape of the bell into the unique cylindrical shape.

Hammering: Same processes as B20.
Lathing: Same processes as B20.
Finishing: Same processes as B20.
Quality control: Same processes as B20.

B8 production tour with Dave Lombardo








Swiss and German factories

Early 602 finished at the German factory

The German factory was the 1st, to start production around 1947, the Swiss factory didn't come online untill 1957. The German factory is the sole producer of gongs, and has been since opening.
Both factories made both levels of product except the German factory didn't make B20 cymbals or Giant beats.
Many 2002's were made in 70s and 80s at the German factory and the German factory also "finished" a small number of 602s during the preserial days (** see below).
The German factory made practically all the vintage Paiste lines: 2002, 3000, 2000, 1000, 400, 200, Stambul '65, Stambul, 404, 505, Ludwig cymbals, Dixies, Supers, Stanoples, Zilkos, etc.
There is a notion among some that the Swiss versions are better quality... they are not, some German versions are usually a little heavier and a little darker sounding.
People are less familiar with German Paistes because the Swiss factory did most of the exporting, so the U.S. didn't get German 2002's or 404's or 505's.
The German Paistes were meant for the German market and probably certain countries in Central Europe, everyone else got Swiss cymbals.

(**) Correspondence with Paiste Switzerland:
"By reason of a distributed capacitance, we have some Formula 602's that have been finished in Germany at the end of the 1950's.
They were annealed and hammered in Switzerland and Paiste Germany has completed them. That’s the reason they have a stamp “made in Germany”.

Kind regards, Customer Service Department
Paiste Switzerland"


Notes and references

Rolling

[1] Rolling is a metal forming process in which metal stock is passed through one or more pairs of rolls to reduce the thickness, to make the thickness uniform, and/or to impart a desired mechanical property.
The concept is similar to the rolling of dough. Rolling is classified according to the temperature of the metal rolled:
If the temperature of the metal is above its recrystallization temperature, then the process is known as hot rolling.
If the temperature of the metal is below its recrystallization temperature, the process is known as cold rolling.

Cross rolling

[2] Cross rolling is a way of reducing the directional dependency of different properties of the rolled plate.
Cross rolling is normally done by changing the rolling direction by 90° about the normal direction.
Changes in residual stress distribution cross rolling leads to rolled product of comparatively uniform mechanical properties in all directions.

Annealing

[3] Annealing is a heat treatment that alters the physical and sometimes chemical properties of a material to increase its ductility and reduce its hardness and makes it more workable.
It involves heating a material above its recrystallization temperature, maintaining a suitable temperature for an appropriate amount of time and then cooled.
Bronze can be either cooled slowly in air, or quickly by quenching in water. In this fashion, the metal is softened and prepared for further work such as hammering, shaping, stamping, or forming.

Tempering

[4] Tempering is a process of heat treating, it is done to reduce some of the excess hardness, and is done by heating the metal to some temperature below the critical point for a certain period of time, then allowing it to cool in still air.
The exact temperature determines the amount of hardness removed, and depends on both the specific composition of the alloy and on the desired properties in the finished product.



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