Difference between revisions of "Paiste Super"
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File:Paiste Catalog 1970.jpg|1970 Paiste price sheet: 1st. listing of Supers that has been found. | File:Paiste Catalog 1970.jpg|1970 Paiste price sheet: 1st. listing of Supers that has been found. | ||
File:Paiste 1978 404 - 505 - Super.jpg|1978 catalog, last listing of Supers | File:Paiste 1978 404 - 505 - Super.jpg|1978 catalog, last listing of Supers | ||
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File:Super 20 ride.jpg|NS12 Super 20" | File:Super 20 ride.jpg|NS12 Super 20" | ||
File:Super 22 a.jpg|B8 Super 22" | File:Super 22 a.jpg|B8 Super 22" | ||
Revision as of 12:39, 25 April 2022
Super
Contents
Introduction: 1964
Discontinued: 1978 (last catalog listing)
Background: Introduction: First known Paiste SUPER advert was in the PTM magazine - Jan-June 1965 - likely printed in 1964, we are pretty positive the Super line was released in 1964, discontinued in 1978. The Paiste SUPER (not to be confused with the precursor to the Formula 602, the B20 Super Formula 602) was a long-running, low-priced cymbal that slotted in below the Dixie in the Paiste lineup for most, if not all, of its history.
It is speculated that the SUPER was first made in Germany starting in 1964, after the Paiste Standard line was discontinued. Then the Swiss factory also made NS12 Supers for a short period of time (1967-1971?) before both factories made the B8 version starting in 1971.
Production of the B8 Super ceased by 1974 in the Swiss factory - the cymbal was still available from the German factory (in very limited sizes - 14", 18" and 20") until 1978 when it was replaced by the 101.
The Supers made in Switzerland in 1972 and 1973 were given serial numbers (at least some of the time).
Late period Super cymbals will have a black ink Paiste logo stamped near the bell (unless it has faded or been cleaned off) and the red type stamp ink dates back to the NS12 days.
The very late period Supers (post 1975) from Germany had black type stamp ink and some of these cymbals even have serial numbers.
Innovation:
Alloy: Nickel Silver - CuSn8/B8 bronze (possibly after 1971)
Quality: Entry level, budget, beginner student
Applications: The budget Super was a "universal" cymbal suitable for crashing and riding.
Medium
Hi-Hats
"The sizes above appear on the July, 1970 Paiste price sheet. It is entirely possible, most likely probably, that the Super lineup was different in the earlier days of NS12 production.
NS12 cymbals stamped as Mediums have been reported, but there isn't any picture documentation.
The sizes above were also reflective of the earlier stages of B8 production. By 1976, the Super line had been reduced to 14", 18" and 20" cymbals.
Additional 60s era catalogs will need to be found to shed more light on the early history of this line."
1965 PTM advert for Supers
1970 Paiste price sheet: 1st. listing of Supers that has been found.
1978 catalog, last listing of Supers
NS12 Super 20"
B8 Super 22"
B8 Super Swiss '73 serial
B8 Super Medium
14" Hi-Hats will full 70's ink labeling
14" Hi-Hats will full 70's ink labeling
Information from: Todd Little, Dan Garza
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