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'''Country:''' United States<br>
 
'''Country:''' United States<br>
 
'''Group:''' [[Zildjian Types and Models#Ride|Ride]]<br>
 
'''Group:''' [[Zildjian Types and Models#Ride|Ride]]<br>
'''Type:''' [[Zildjian Flat Top Cymbal|Flat Top]]<br>
 
 
'''Size:''' [[Zildjian Flat Top|16"]] [[Zildjian Flat Top|18"]] [[Zildjian Flat Top|20"]] [[Zildjian Flat Top|22"]]<br>
 
'''Size:''' [[Zildjian Flat Top|16"]] [[Zildjian Flat Top|18"]] [[Zildjian Flat Top|20"]] [[Zildjian Flat Top|22"]]<br>
 
'''Series:''' [[A_Zildjian|A Zildjian]]<br>
 
'''Series:''' [[A_Zildjian|A Zildjian]]<br>
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'''Years of production:'''  1970 for just one year <br>
 
'''Years of production:'''  1970 for just one year <br>
 
'''Sound file:''' unknown<br>
 
'''Sound file:''' unknown<br>
'''Description:''' The Flat Top Cymbal is known by a few nicknames like Cowbell ride and Big Bell. Despite the name it is not a Flat Top Ride. It is a cymbal with a larger than usual diameter bell (around 8"). The bell is flat on top. The low number of Flat Top Cymbals is because they were only produced for one year.<br>
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'''Description:''' The Flat Top Cymbal is known by a few nicknames like Cowbell ride and Big Bell. Despite the name it is not a Flat Top Ride or any kind of Flat Ride without a bell. It is a cymbal with a larger than usual diameter bell (around 7"). The bell is flat on top. The low number of Flat Top Cymbals is because they were only produced for one year. It seems they didn't sound all that great and production was halted.<br>
  
 
[[File:z-1970-flat-top-cymbal.png|Flat Top Cymbal]]
 
[[File:z-1970-flat-top-cymbal.png|Flat Top Cymbal]]
  
What makes them important for research purposes is that all known examples (currently 13) have what we call the 60s stamp. Because of their short duration of production they provide one line of evidence which suggests that
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What makes them useful for research purposes is that all known examples (currently 13) have what we call the 60s stamp. Because of their short duration of production they provide one line of evidence which suggests that
  
 
The so called 60s stamp was still in use in 1970<br>
 
The so called 60s stamp was still in use in 1970<br>
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Or was in use at the same time as the 60s stamp.<br>  
 
Or was in use at the same time as the 60s stamp.<br>  
  
Here is a 20" example which does have the original model ink saying Flat Top, and it also has Medium Ride ink for good measure. For even better measure there is also a picture of the bell taken from the underside which shows the diameter as around 8 inches.  
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Here is a 20" example which does have the original model ink saying Flat Top, and it also has Medium Ride ink for good measure. For even better measure there is also a picture of the bell taken from the underside which shows the diameter as around 7 inches.  
  
 
  
 
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</gallery>
 
</gallery>
  
In the top view you can also see that from a straight down view it is not easy to spot that the bell is flat on top. This is better done with a view which is slightly side on. The example above is from a different 20" cymbal which weighs 2200g.
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In the top view you can also see that from a straight down view it is not easy to spot that the bell is flat on top. This is better done with a view which is slightly side on. The example above is from a different 20" cymbal which weighs 2200g. The next largest bell diameter in use in the 1970s was the Large Cup with is noticeably smaller at 6" diameter and 1" tall.

Revision as of 15:53, 12 September 2022


Company: Avedis Zildjian
Country: United States
Group: Ride
Size: 16" 18" 20" 22"
Series: A Zildjian
Weight: Medium?
Used Prices: coming soon
Years of production: 1970 for just one year
Sound file: unknown
Description: The Flat Top Cymbal is known by a few nicknames like Cowbell ride and Big Bell. Despite the name it is not a Flat Top Ride or any kind of Flat Ride without a bell. It is a cymbal with a larger than usual diameter bell (around 7"). The bell is flat on top. The low number of Flat Top Cymbals is because they were only produced for one year. It seems they didn't sound all that great and production was halted.

Flat Top Cymbal

What makes them useful for research purposes is that all known examples (currently 13) have what we call the 60s stamp. Because of their short duration of production they provide one line of evidence which suggests that

The so called 60s stamp was still in use in 1970
The so called 70s stamp didn't come in to use until later in the 1970s
Or was in use at the same time as the 60s stamp.

Here is a 20" example which does have the original model ink saying Flat Top, and it also has Medium Ride ink for good measure. For even better measure there is also a picture of the bell taken from the underside which shows the diameter as around 7 inches.


In the top view you can also see that from a straight down view it is not easy to spot that the bell is flat on top. This is better done with a view which is slightly side on. The example above is from a different 20" cymbal which weighs 2200g. The next largest bell diameter in use in the 1970s was the Large Cup with is noticeably smaller at 6" diameter and 1" tall.